Danville snow adventure spoiled by trespassing citations

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After last weekend’s big snowstorm, David Rodgers, of Danville, took his children sledding on one of Danville’s most popular hills — the one next to Woodberry Hills Elementary.

Rodgers said they were there during the day, and left at about 6 p.m. Sunday. But he said he was surprised to learn a group of young people were arrested for trespassing on the school property later that night.

“I would like to know what Danville is coming to that when families try to go out and have a good time with the kids, they have to worry about getting a trespassing ticket,” Rodgers e-mailed to the Register & Bee on Tuesday. “When I grew up in this town and it snowed, everyone I know went to Woodberry School to go sledding and have a good time.”

Rodgers said he remembers the Parks and Recreation department putting out fire drums and handing out hot chocolate on nights when snow fell.

“Now the police are writing tickets instead,” Rodgers said.

The police, however, said the scene they saw shortly after 10 p.m. Sunday night was not a family sledding outing.

Capt. Matt Carter said officers responded to a call reporting vehicles doing doughnuts on the hill, and arrived to find trash and beer cans on the grounds and the school’s windowsills, sleds and vehicle tracks in the snow.

“It was a mess up there,” Carter said.

The incident report notes that several people fled when the officers arrived.

The officers detained 14 people, who ranged in age from 18 to 22, but because “officers could not determine who possessed the beer, left the trash or drove recklessly on the property, the decision was made to charge the 14 adults with trespassing on school grounds after dark.

“All of them were released on a summons and told to leave the property,” the report said.

Virginia law includes a section about trespassing on church or school property (Sec. 18.2-128), which is also part of Danville’s City Code. It says anyone on church or school property at night, without permission and for any reason other than to attend a scheduled meeting or service, can be charged with trespassing.

The school also has signs posted near the front doors, about 200 feet from the hill, that say trespassing is prohibited.

Rodgers said the beer cans were there earlier in the day, when he was there with his family — and said that location has always been a popular place for people to congregate and have some beers.

“People always did like to have a drink up there,” he admitted. “But they’re running people off that are trying to have a good time; the person I talked to said they were just up there sledding.”

Rodgers is sorry a tradition is dying, he said.

“I want to keep the tradition of carrying kids up there for a good time,” Rodgers said. “Please don’t take away some of the good things kids have now.”

Taking kids to the hill for some daytime sledding is fine, Carter said — but if the police get a disturbance call after dark, they have to respond and enforce the trespassing law, he said.

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Flag Comment Posted by be real on February 14, 2010 at 11:10 pm

Mr Fireman!!!

I also think most of the time DPD does a great job. But like usually there are a few bad apples. Maybe if they wont wasting there time on tickets for sleigh riding it would not take 14 mins to get to a call of a pitt bull running after school kids. That seems like a preety important call. I also agree with u that they schould lay no deputies off that will be a bad move.

Flag Comment Posted by fireman on February 13, 2010 at 9:36 pm

By the way,

THANK YOU DPD FOR EVERY THING YOU DO!

Flag Comment Posted by fireman on February 13, 2010 at 9:35 pm

Sorry, no instead of know, my bad was in a rush.

Flag Comment Posted by fireman on February 13, 2010 at 9:34 pm

be real,

It is good to know that someone is timing the officers responding to your calls.

Hey all you dispatchers, lets help be real with this issue.

Do you instantaneously give an officer a call as the caller is calling in the information?

Sometimes yes, sometimes know. And there is other thing where some calls come in and are a tad more important than some others and those get dispatched first. Then there is this other issue about where a officer who works a certain area, and is already busy on a call, and another officer may have to come clear across the river.

Be thankful for your whole 14 minutes, we live in the county and there is a longer wait time, and they are talking about taking deputies away from us.

I will take your 14 minute wait any time.

Flag Comment Posted by Sidewinder on February 10, 2010 at 1:28 pm

Miles, you are simply an internet troll.  Wikipedia defines the term as:  In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

I won’t even discuss why I even bothered to mention you in the previous post, I refuse to be baited by the likes of a person such as you.  This about some kids with some trouble they did not deserve, not about you.

Flag Comment Posted by Randall D on February 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm

Better than comedy central.  The best is yet to come, when all these charges are dismissed without prejudice.  I can hardly wait!

Flag Comment Posted by ravencottage on February 10, 2010 at 9:01 am

Miles did you get a beginner’s thesaurus for Christmas? Prolix and riposte in comments about snow sledding…now really! A few more big words and you could be dangerous.

Flag Comment Posted by Miles Davis on February 10, 2010 at 8:54 am

Excuse me, that would be “shudder”.  I’m impressed to learn that cottage can read; obviously a newly acquired skill.  Now if (s)he ever learns to think, we will all be delightfully surprised.  Ain’t gonna happen.  Yes, that would be “ain’t”.

Flag Comment Posted by ravencottage on February 10, 2010 at 8:41 am

Could someone explain what a “shutter” has to do with any of this?

Flag Comment Posted by Miles Davis on February 10, 2010 at 8:20 am

Sidewinder, if you call rambling on and on and taking up almost a whole thread page “concise”, I shutter to think what you conceptualize as prolix.  Nevertheless, repeating the same thing does not make it more persuasive.  Read my initial riposte.  Nothing has changed.

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